Dreadnought Skill OE Guide

Re: Dreadnought Skill OE Guide

Postby Laby » Wed Jun 22, 2011 7:42 pm

Thanks for the Info Diego, I was lazy :)
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Re: Dreadnought Skill OE Guide

Postby Nuku » Thu Jun 23, 2011 8:22 am

Diego Vargas wrote:Polearm Weapon = Base 3 Targets (was 5 before the -2 targets change)

fify :)

Polearm SA Health/Anger/Haste/Guidance/Infinity = +4 Targets

So i thought any SA would add 4 targets on top, but it's really only these you list?

Polearm PvP Modification = +4 Targets

Ok, i never knew this, so the PvP mod actually has an added bonus for PvE?

Max Possible Targets
Warlord 34 (3 + 4 + 4 + 15 + 8)
Titan/BH/WS 26 (3 + 4 + 4 + 15)
Duelist 16 (3 + 4 + 4 + 5)
Everyone else 11 (3 + 4 + 4)

fify.
also doesn't SA's give +4 ONLY if you have polearm mastery?
if so that would make 7 targets for everyone else.
i wonder if the pvp mod gives +4 if you don't have polearm mastery, if not that would be max 3 targets for everyone else, how did you test this (if you did) ?

Also Shock Stomp +Chance does not increase stun land rate, It increases Target Break.
Shock Stomp L5 is 80% target break and 50% stun.
Shock Stomp +30 Chance is 100% target break and 50% stun.

Not trying to flame here or anything, just adding to the conversation;
your theory about Shock Stomp was different on Elliebelly, where you noted (IIRC) that it would be 80% stun and +chance would increase the landrate.

What made this theory change?
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Re: Dreadnought Skill OE Guide

Postby Laby » Thu Jun 23, 2011 8:31 am

I confirm what Diego said about Shock Stomp

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Re: Dreadnought Skill OE Guide

Postby Nuku » Thu Jun 23, 2011 10:12 am

Laby wrote:I confirm what Diego said about Shock Stomp
:)

That's good, but i edited my post to be more clear what is being asked.
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Re: Dreadnought Skill OE Guide

Postby Nuku » Mon Jun 27, 2011 8:13 am

Nuku wrote:
Diego Vargas wrote:Polearm Weapon = Base 3 Targets (was 5 before the -2 targets change)

fify :)

Polearm SA Health/Anger/Haste/Guidance/Infinity = +4 Targets

So i thought any SA would add 4 targets on top, but it's really only these you list?

Polearm PvP Modification = +4 Targets

Ok, i never knew this, so the PvP mod actually has an added bonus for PvE?

Max Possible Targets
Warlord 34 (3 + 4 + 4 + 15 + 8)
Titan/BH/WS 26 (3 + 4 + 4 + 15)
Duelist 16 (3 + 4 + 4 + 5)
Everyone else 11 (3 + 4 + 4)

fify.
also doesn't SA's give +4 ONLY if you have polearm mastery?
if so that would make 7 targets for everyone else.
i wonder if the pvp mod gives +4 if you don't have polearm mastery, if not that would be max 3 targets for everyone else, how did you test this (if you did) ?

Also Shock Stomp +Chance does not increase stun land rate, It increases Target Break.
Shock Stomp L5 is 80% target break and 50% stun.
Shock Stomp +30 Chance is 100% target break and 50% stun.

Not trying to flame here or anything, just adding to the conversation;
your theory about Shock Stomp was different on Elliebelly, where you noted (IIRC) that it would be 80% stun and +chance would increase the landrate.

What made this theory change?

bump for diego
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Re: Dreadnought Skill OE Guide

Postby Diego Vargas » Fri Jul 01, 2011 10:22 pm

My opinion changed based on the specific information surrounding those skills being made available.

Everything I listed there is cannon.
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Re: Dreadnought Skill OE Guide

Postby Nuku » Tue Jul 05, 2011 2:16 pm

Yes exactly that "information being made available" i wonder where these are available. ;)

Offtopic: Sorry language barrier here, i know what "cannon" means, but not in such a sentence (even with translate tools), anyone?
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Re: Dreadnought Skill OE Guide

Postby Laby » Tue Jul 05, 2011 2:48 pm

For me cannon means useless, old, not up to date, irrelevant. Something like that.

So, anything said Diego is wrong in H5 ?
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Re: Dreadnought Skill OE Guide

Postby Untagged » Wed Jul 06, 2011 3:30 pm

I believe he is referencing canon law used by the church, meaning that his post is now the one single truth.
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Re: Dreadnought Skill OE Guide

Postby Nuku » Thu Jul 07, 2011 8:41 am

Untagged wrote:I believe he is referencing canon law used by the church, meaning that his post is now the one single truth.

well he was wrong with the base targets, but if he thinks that way (kinda cocky), then he wouldn't mind to show us where he got his info... imho
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