Etina's End

Here you will find information about the updates known in Korea as "Etina's End", "The Return of the Forgotten Kings" and "Orfen"

Re: Etina's End

Postby Illogical » Mon Aug 07, 2017 8:26 am

Nadmaster101 wrote:
Elmar wrote:The players are rather confused about the clarification that was added in the live patch notes - it's simply not clear whether that's really just a clarification, a play on words, or an actual change of the mechanics. Shelly writes on August 3, one day after the patch went live, that Summoners have the same Two-Handed Blunt passive as Titans. If this is spoken from actual post-patch experience, it would mean that a Two-Handed Tauti Axe should work with a Summoner and a Retributer with a Titan.

Without a post-patch live version test there is no way to tell what is true right now and what is historical information.


Or they forgot about summoners again and forget to change their passives to say Cane instead of 2H blunt, in turn not only screwing summoners but also titans by changing classification. On the other hand, if summoners passive says 2H blunt and works with a Retributer then there should be no reason that a Retributer wouldn't work on a titan. I would like more information on the retributer specifically, so If I have to dump my retributer in favor of a 2H Frenzied Tauti I can do it sooner rather than later when prices skyrocket due to change. Hopefully we get an official test not on a PTS soon.....


Exactly the concern I expressed before. But until 4r4m is able to do a test, or we see actual Powerwiki info being changed, we won't know.
If they change the weapon type, but forget the Wynn Weapon Mastery, Wynns are screwed. But since the Wynn population in Korea is almost none we'll never know and it will never be fixed because there is no outcry.

Either way; I am glad SoS is getting nerfed.
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Re: Etina's End

Postby Aram » Mon Aug 07, 2017 11:22 am

Short table of tests https://goo.gl/eisGEH important moment here, that I was testing with SK (3 prof.) without passive skills to dual blunt weapon, maybe it incorrect, but I can't test with 2 accounts.
Also I was add there Titan stats with retri., no perfetctly indentical, but close, in my opinion.
Hope it help :)
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Re: Etina's End

Postby socketka » Mon Aug 07, 2017 2:24 pm

it doesnt matter. to me it seems sos is still working same way like before.
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Re: Etina's End

Postby Draecke » Mon Aug 07, 2017 6:49 pm

Aram wrote:Short table of tests https://goo.gl/eisGEH important moment here, that I was testing with SK (3 prof.) without passive skills to dual blunt weapon, maybe it incorrect, but I can't test with 2 accounts.
Also I was add there Titan stats with retri., no perfetctly indentical, but close, in my opinion.
Hope it help :)


are those done on PTS or Live server ?
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Re: Etina's End

Postby Elmar » Mon Aug 07, 2017 7:56 pm

They were done on the PTS, but on August 6, i.e. after the patch went live. Unless the chaos in the Lineage 2 Department is even greater than the neglected Powerwiki makes me suspect, the PTS should have been brought up to live status on August 2.
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Re: Etina's End

Postby Tatanees » Mon Aug 07, 2017 8:47 pm

The result seems retri does not work with sos? Since 1h blunt is doing similar or more damage. Am I understanding the chart correctly?
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Re: Etina's End

Postby Nadmaster101 » Mon Aug 07, 2017 11:47 pm

I'll break it down from what I see.

dual blunt 2200 2600 2800 3300 2500 3100 3300 2829
with SoS 3200 3900 3500 3700 3600 4100 4400 3771
SoS adds 30% pattack but does not add 100% critical damage. No Change to current model.

1h blunt 3600 5200 4400 4200 4300 4100 5000 4400
with SoS 10000 10000 10000 13000 16000 14000 13000 12286
SoS adds 30% pattack and 100% critical damage. No Change to current model.

retri 2500 4600 3700 2700 5000 4600 5500 4086
with SoS 6400 13000 14000 11000 12000 13000 12000 11629
SoS adds 30% pattack and 100% critical damage. No Change to current model.

Being this is the one in question the most lemme break it down.
2500*1.30(base + Pattack Added) = 3250*2(Base +Critical Damage Modifer) = 6500
which is + or- 10% of the 6400 in green

caster 3300 4200 4600 4500 4100 4500 4300 4214
with SoS 12000 8600 9300 9100 11000 10000 11000 10143
SoS adds 30% pattack and 100% critical damage. No Change to current model.


Tatanees wrote:The result seems retri does not work with sos? Since 1h blunt is doing similar or more damage. Am I understanding the chart correctly?


Retributer does indeed work. But what is curious to me is the amount of damage that the 1H blunt is doing. The scaling either seems to be off or Counter Critical may have triggered without him noticing, because some of that damage is higher than it should be even taking passives into account. Doing the math with CC triggered the figures are withing 10% variance which is normal, but without it they are off by almost 50%.

So judging by the overall look of this, even with the renaming of the 2H Magical Blunt to something like Cane, core mechanics behind it still have not changed at all.
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Re: Etina's End

Postby Nadmaster101 » Tue Aug 08, 2017 12:07 am

The chart you sent is invaluable, now what concerns me is the pictures that you posted with them.
Your pattack with retributer and skills up is tiny. Can you post one more picture of you without skills up and retributer equiped, the other picture that you have has slasher in it which is a different Base pattack so it throws the calculations off by a lot.

From the looks of the retributer picture and skills up it looks like Titan skills no longer work with retributer. No use for SOS if the main skills we use them for don't work with the weapon.
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Re: Etina's End

Postby zlz » Fri Aug 11, 2017 11:18 pm

there was some changes with clanwar start systems? or it's still 5kills and war auto start?
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Re: Etina's End

Postby Elmar » Sat Aug 12, 2017 9:53 am

There are no changes to the way Clan Wars get started:
http://lineage2.plaync.com/board/update ... eId=630883
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